Phony outrage on the campaign trail

re: Phony outrage on the campaign trail

K-Rog — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:00:29 GMT

Pow! Great points, Brendan. The real puppet show is on now. If there is a real Barack I don't expect to see him until November 10th. Will it be too late?

re: Phony outrage on the campaign trail

thomas — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:38:50 GMT

Well put, I felt the same watching all the hyped up indignation. The best one was on our local Fox station, where a supposed Fox executive (it was pointed out he was a Democrat) said "Wesley Clark should just shut up". Oh the humanity!
Clark's taking the bullet for Obama on this one and only a General can pull that of. Democrats know they have to chip on that perceived security issue. Republicans want to keep McCain's service a sacred cow. We'll see.

re: Phony outrage on the campaign trail

K-Rog — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:50:47 GMT

RE: donation bowl... shouldn't the money for "difficult children" go to the parents? Ya know, Xanex and such.

re: Phony outrage on the campaign trail

Emilie — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 15:43:29 GMT

Brendan,
I respectfully disagree but you are wrong. Don't make a superficial comparison of comments between those who served on Swift Boats and a General. And don't make a comparison between Sen Kerry and Sen McCain. The contempt Gen Clark showed for the naval career of Sen McCain is truly outrageous. What about the almost 6 yrs as a POW during which McCain showed leadership and patriotism over and over to inspire the other POWs with him? And if that is the low opinion Clark has of a naval hero, what is his real opinion of Obama who didn't serve in the military at all?

re: Phony outrage on the campaign trail

Richard Russell — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 16:26:51 GMT

The True Story of Max Cleland's Vietnam Injuries ( blew himself up- does this qualify for hero status by the butt-suck Wes the weasel Clark?)

A BUZZFLASH READER COMMENTARY
by Christopher Crallé

I wrote last night in response to the column by Ann Coulter. My father, who has close personal ties with Max, has responded to me and I forward his reply.

What follows is the true account of Max Cleland's injury in Vietnam.

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Thank you Chris. I did not have the links to this, but Max called me about it in case I needed to tell the real truth should someone want to know. This Ann Coulter has written real slime. Only in America. Our service men and women fight and die to defend your right to a free press. The press needs to be aware of their responsibility to use this democratic tool in a responsibility way.

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The 2nd of the 12th Cavalry was engaged in a combat operation at the time of this incident. Max Cleland was with the Battalion Forward Command Post in heavy combat involving the attack of the 1st Cavalry Division up the valley to relieve the Marines who were besieged and surrounded at the Khe Shan Firebase. The whole surrounding area was an active combat zone (some might call the entire country of Vietnam a combat zone). (Is Iraq a combat zone?) Max, the Battalion Signal Officer, was engaged in a combat mission I personally ordered to increase the effectiveness of communications between the battalion combat forward and rear support elements: e.g. Erect a radio relay antenna on a mountain top. By the way, at one point the battalion rear elements came under enemy artillery fire so everyone was in harms way.

As they were getting off the helicopter, Max saw the grenade on the ground and he instinctively went for it. Soldiers in combat don't leave grenades lying around on the ground. Later, in the hospital, he said he thought it was his own but I doubt the concept of "ownership" went through his mind in the split seconds involved in reaching for the grenade. Nearly two decades later another soldier came forward and admitted it was actually his grenade. Does ownership of the grenade really matter? It does not.

Maury Cralle'
Battalion Executive Officer
2d/12th Cavalry Battalion
1st Air Cavalry Division
During the assault on Khe Shan

re: Phony outrage on the campaign trail

Richard Russell — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 16:37:50 GMT

"I don't think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president."

Please supply a qualification to be president exhibited by Barak Hussein Abamma? He's an empty suit reading a tele-prompter

re: Phony outrage on the campaign trail

thomas — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:48:21 GMT

Emilie
When you "respectfully disagree" that usually means you think the other person "is wrong". These "superficial comparisons" are dripping with irony, don't you see? Senator John Kerry, a two time Vietnam vet, was demonized by the right to favor a draft dodging chickenhawk like Dubya. It was Dubya who went after McCain's service in 2000 to defeat him. Was this "truly outrageous" as well? Bet you voted for Bush. You're getting the irony in all of this right? Irony is defined by comparisons. If you don't like a comparison then debunk it, you can't simply say it shouldn't be done... just because you don't like it.